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	<title>Comments on: ICTY Profiles: Vojislav Šešelj</title>
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		<title>By: Rob Miller</title>
		<link>http://robm.me.uk/2009/10/30/icty-profiles-vojislav-seselj/comment-page-1#comment-26709</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Mar 2010 15:15:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think the argument is even less strong when you appeal to 1988–9 rather than to WWII, personally—certainly from the Serb perspective. Obviously in Croatia you have the election of Tuđman, who was undoubtedly an extreme nationalist and whose policies led to the declaration of Serb states in the Krajina (and thus, ultimately, to the expulsion of the Serbs in 1995), but nothing happened in those early years that even begins to justify or excuse the policies of the Bosnian Serbs under Karadžić and Mladić. They were simply instituting—or attempting to institute, at least—the sort of nationalism pioneered by and advanced by Šešelj: that is, of a Velika Srbija extending to the (frankly hilarious) Virovitica-Karlovac-Karlobag line.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It&#039;s one thing wanting to form an ethnic state within current borders and run by the majority, as Tuđman did; it&#039;s certainly a distasteful idea and not one to be encouraged. But to advocate the effective conquest of two sovereign states and the expulsion or subjugation of their non-Serb populations? It&#039;s an entirely different level.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the argument is even less strong when you appeal to 1988–9 rather than to WWII, personally—certainly from the Serb perspective. Obviously in Croatia you have the election of Tuđman, who was undoubtedly an extreme nationalist and whose policies led to the declaration of Serb states in the Krajina (and thus, ultimately, to the expulsion of the Serbs in 1995), but nothing happened in those early years that even begins to justify or excuse the policies of the Bosnian Serbs under Karadžić and Mladić. They were simply instituting—or attempting to institute, at least—the sort of nationalism pioneered by and advanced by Šešelj: that is, of a Velika Srbija extending to the (frankly hilarious) Virovitica-Karlovac-Karlobag line.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s one thing wanting to form an ethnic state within current borders and run by the majority, as Tuđman did; it&#8217;s certainly a distasteful idea and not one to be encouraged. But to advocate the effective conquest of two sovereign states and the expulsion or subjugation of their non-Serb populations? It&#8217;s an entirely different level.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
		<link>http://robm.me.uk/2009/10/30/icty-profiles-vojislav-seselj/comment-page-1#comment-26708</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Mar 2010 10:54:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Rob, I don&#039;t think you&#039;re anti-Serb, but your article came out a little Serbophobic and I explained why. I didn&#039;t mean to accuse you of anything.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;When I wrote &quot;BEFORE&quot;, I was referring to 1988/9, not WWII (on which my knowledge is unfortunately rather thin). What if Seselj was actually trying to defend Serbian population in Bosnia and Croatia? Let&#039;s not forget that a lot more Serbs lived in both Croatia and Muslim parts of Bosnia prior to the war. I&#039;m talking about hundreds of thousands of human beings banished from Bosnia and Croatia (I can&#039;t find the exact number yet).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Now, maybe Seselj really is a sick criminal who just used the circumstances to pull off his evil scheme. But what if he isn&#039;t? Why is the trial taking so long?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Cooperation is fine, I&#039;m all for it, let them cooperate as much as they want ;), but it seems that bits of truth are being covered up or engineered in the meantime. As time passes by it will get increasingly difficult to uncover the truth (and nothing but the truth). But cooperation - good:)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Kind Regards&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob, I don&#8217;t think you&#8217;re anti-Serb, but your article came out a little Serbophobic and I explained why. I didn&#8217;t mean to accuse you of anything.</p>
<p>When I wrote &#8220;BEFORE&#8221;, I was referring to 1988/9, not WWII (on which my knowledge is unfortunately rather thin). What if Seselj was actually trying to defend Serbian population in Bosnia and Croatia? Let&#8217;s not forget that a lot more Serbs lived in both Croatia and Muslim parts of Bosnia prior to the war. I&#8217;m talking about hundreds of thousands of human beings banished from Bosnia and Croatia (I can&#8217;t find the exact number yet).</p>
<p>Now, maybe Seselj really is a sick criminal who just used the circumstances to pull off his evil scheme. But what if he isn&#8217;t? Why is the trial taking so long?</p>
<p>Cooperation is fine, I&#8217;m all for it, let them cooperate as much as they want ;), but it seems that bits of truth are being covered up or engineered in the meantime. As time passes by it will get increasingly difficult to uncover the truth (and nothing but the truth). But cooperation &#8211; good:)</p>
<p>Kind Regards</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Miller</title>
		<link>http://robm.me.uk/2009/10/30/icty-profiles-vojislav-seselj/comment-page-1#comment-26677</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 12:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Also: I&#039;ve now been accused of being anti-Serb in one article, and pro-Serb and anti-Croat in another. Now I just need to get condemned for being anti-Bosniak, anti-Albanian, anti-Montenegrin, anti-Macedonian and anti-Slovene, and I&#039;ll have the full collection—looks like my work&#039;s cut out! ;)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also: I&#8217;ve now been accused of being anti-Serb in one article, and pro-Serb and anti-Croat in another. Now I just need to get condemned for being anti-Bosniak, anti-Albanian, anti-Montenegrin, anti-Macedonian and anti-Slovene, and I&#8217;ll have the full collection—looks like my work&#8217;s cut out! ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Miller</title>
		<link>http://robm.me.uk/2009/10/30/icty-profiles-vojislav-seselj/comment-page-1#comment-26676</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 12:23:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;There&#039;s no doubt that the Serbs were the victims of terrible atrocities in WWII, but I fail to see how that justifies Šešelj&#039;s actions at all: it&#039;s inexcusable to evoke the memory of past terrors to justify present terrors against people whose only connection to the former is a shared nationality.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Part of being a mature and stable democracy is not to bear those grudges: look at, say, Poland and Germany, who cooperate as members of the EU and NATO despite a past far bloodier—and just as recent—as that between Croatia and Serbia.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m not ignorant of the unique circumstances in the Western Balkans, of course, but it seems impossible to conceive of a future that does not involve a Germany–Poland-esque cooperation between the whole region. Anyone that threatens that secure future—as Šešelj did, along with Tuđman and others from all sides—cannot be condoned, IMO.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s no doubt that the Serbs were the victims of terrible atrocities in WWII, but I fail to see how that justifies Šešelj&#8217;s actions at all: it&#8217;s inexcusable to evoke the memory of past terrors to justify present terrors against people whose only connection to the former is a shared nationality.</p>
<p>Part of being a mature and stable democracy is not to bear those grudges: look at, say, Poland and Germany, who cooperate as members of the EU and NATO despite a past far bloodier—and just as recent—as that between Croatia and Serbia.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not ignorant of the unique circumstances in the Western Balkans, of course, but it seems impossible to conceive of a future that does not involve a Germany–Poland-esque cooperation between the whole region. Anyone that threatens that secure future—as Šešelj did, along with Tuđman and others from all sides—cannot be condoned, IMO.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 20:45:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;First of all, thank you for the article.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I have to admit that your article seems to be somewhat Serbophobic, especially in the last sentence (&quot;...devastating consequences for the non-Serb populations of Yugoslavia&quot;). The consequences were indeed devastating, for Serbs as well. The fact that Serbian victims (civilians) and countless refugees are hardly ever, or never, mentioned in mainstream media is truly beyond me.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If you read &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.srpska-mreza.com/WarCrime/lm53/LM53.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; Seselj&#039;s radical actions might become more clear, they might be observed as a reaction to the crimes committed against Serbs BEFORE the war (just another possible viewpoint).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;By no means do I want to justify the actions of a potential war criminal, I simply want to know the truth about this horrible war. The whole truth, not just the bits and pieces that tend to blame everything on Serbs.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Once again, thank you for writing about this.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all, thank you for the article.</p>
<p>I have to admit that your article seems to be somewhat Serbophobic, especially in the last sentence (&#8220;&#8230;devastating consequences for the non-Serb populations of Yugoslavia&#8221;). The consequences were indeed devastating, for Serbs as well. The fact that Serbian victims (civilians) and countless refugees are hardly ever, or never, mentioned in mainstream media is truly beyond me.</p>
<p>If you read <a href="http://www.srpska-mreza.com/WarCrime/lm53/LM53.html" rel="nofollow">this</a> Seselj&#8217;s radical actions might become more clear, they might be observed as a reaction to the crimes committed against Serbs BEFORE the war (just another possible viewpoint).</p>
<p>By no means do I want to justify the actions of a potential war criminal, I simply want to know the truth about this horrible war. The whole truth, not just the bits and pieces that tend to blame everything on Serbs.</p>
<p>Once again, thank you for writing about this.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Miller</title>
		<link>http://robm.me.uk/2009/10/30/icty-profiles-vojislav-seselj/comment-page-1#comment-26608</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Oh, and no changed family name or anything—just an interest stemming from my university days.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and no changed family name or anything—just an interest stemming from my university days.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Miller</title>
		<link>http://robm.me.uk/2009/10/30/icty-profiles-vojislav-seselj/comment-page-1#comment-26607</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:10:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;There are some pages, but I&#039;m yet to think of the best way to slot in navigation; I was going for a really content-centric design and I want as few distractions from the main content as possible. I had a reboot recently, hence there only being three articles: it was pretty cathartic to hit the &quot;confirm&quot; button when deleting four years worth of posts, though!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are some pages, but I&#8217;m yet to think of the best way to slot in navigation; I was going for a really content-centric design and I want as few distractions from the main content as possible. I had a reboot recently, hence there only being three articles: it was pretty cathartic to hit the &#8220;confirm&#8221; button when deleting four years worth of posts, though!</p>
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		<title>By: Howard Firkin</title>
		<link>http://robm.me.uk/2009/10/30/icty-profiles-vojislav-seselj/comment-page-1#comment-26603</link>
		<dc:creator>Howard Firkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:36:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Rob,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Well written articles; thanks. And nice that someone with a name devoid of diacritics should be interested in the Balkans! (Now tell me your family name was changed... )&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The robm site intrigues me. Why can&#039;t I navigate around it? I found your site through your PHP Security Guide, which lead me to your blog... but presumably there&#039;s more somewhere...&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob,</p>
<p>Well written articles; thanks. And nice that someone with a name devoid of diacritics should be interested in the Balkans! (Now tell me your family name was changed&#8230; )</p>
<p>The robm site intrigues me. Why can&#8217;t I navigate around it? I found your site through your PHP Security Guide, which lead me to your blog&#8230; but presumably there&#8217;s more somewhere&#8230;</p>
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